Style of Clan Matches

j2k · Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:46 pm Post subject: Style of Clan Matches

From what I've read/understand from the rules, the only type of game acceptable for this tournament of Clan Matches is a golem game where golem killing is allowed. Would it be then considered against the rules if two teams agree to make golem killing illegal, or chaosing illegal in their game in particular?

Golem killing is just out of hand, even with cells taken out, and chaos as well. Killing a golem doesn't take skill when you have an entire team backing you up, it's killing a freakin computer algorithm written by a couple people, it's not difficult to do if your character is built for it. If some people want to play against a computer algorithm instead of against actual people which requires skill then I guess be my guest, but what about those of us who want to actually test our skills with our characters?

I'm not suggesting playing Softnyx's lame idea of DM's, maybe use the set up which many "upper" level golem games have become anyway, set up as a Golem game but no one actually goes for the golem, it's a deathmatch in the golem game, you get the experience of a golem game, and the skill-testing-fun of a deathmatch without the crippled armor, energy and exp of a Softnyx DM.

Or at least have that as an option that clans can choose from maybe? I just thought that Clan Battles would be a test of the clans' skill, not their ability to overcome a computer algorithm. Maybe I'm completely off base and alone on this issue, in which case ignore me I guess.
_________________
My will shall shape my future. Whether I fail or succeed shall be my own doing. I can clear any obstacle before me or I can be lost in the maze. My choice, my responsibility, win or lose. -I- am the defining being in my life, -I- control my destiny.

Xionix · Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:48 pm Post subject:

I agree with j2k

KrYpT · Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:38 pm Post subject:

Wasn't the point of hte league being in golem game allow different tactics? Like a team can go for a golem which forces a team to change strategy to either go after goelm too or take out the gold sword and the person of most thread of getting gold sword. In another way it's good becasue while one team have someone concentrated on golem the other team has the advantage of outnumbering his team mates thus could lead to a fall. There is many options in the way the league is playing Golems/no cell but it's not limited to only killing golem, obviously the way to win teh golem games can be kill the whole otehr team too and I'm pretty sure that option wasn't taken out and we arn't forcing people to kill golems jsut becasue it's in golem mode.
_________________
krypt is whipped

j2k · Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:43 pm Post subject:

Ok, I understand that some may want to do that, but I basically just wanted to make sure a game wouldn't be considered null and void if the teams agreed to terms such as those even if the league rules don't state them as valid rules, or maybe get them added to the rules under, "Possible Game Style Variations (To be agreed upon by both teams)" or something like that.
_________________
My will shall shape my future. Whether I fail or succeed shall be my own doing. I can clear any obstacle before me or I can be lost in the maze. My choice, my responsibility, win or lose. -I- am the defining being in my life, -I- control my destiny.

dark_rz · Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:58 pm Post subject:

Actually it wouldn't be fair to those who have cd characters in this league if we banned golem killing (the former clan Fear Me had a lot if I recall correctly). Of course, there are also clans who can't match other clans in sheer power, and they might go the golem killing route as well.

Strokke · Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:04 pm Post subject:

I think the only rule that might need to be added is no using chaos on golems. Because when people start doing that like you said it no longer feels like player vs player. (I can't remember if that made it into the rulebook I'll check this weekend)

But not counting chaos, due to no cells I highly doubt that clans going for the golem will be even mildly successful.
_________________

kokU · Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:46 pm Post subject:

I agree, clan going after golem would most likely lose. If you agree with another clan not to go for golem during the game, its up to you in my opinion, cuz if the rules dont say anything about that, and you are agreeing with another clan on that, its obvious that both clans are agreeing on that therefore there should be no problem on voiding games. there is nothing wrong on doing that if both clans agree.

Microbe · League Advocate Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 134 Pictures: 0

Ya but theres a problem, like for exemple the 2 teams agree for a ni golem killing game but what happens is some1 kill it and they win because of that ? So basically team can decide to not kill the golem but then just dont dispute the other team because they killed it because it's not a rule so and I don't agree with your opinion about a team going for golem will lose that's totally false, what would you do against a BS team ? all CD you will lose because they will kill the golem in like 3 hits ? And you wont be able to kill the guy with golden cause he haves too much armor and he got his teammates to bacjk him up and if he dies another BS can just get it. OMFG its an awesome plan. LOL
_________________

RPGA Member

dark_rz · Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:47 pm Post subject:

kokU · Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:49 pm Post subject:

If they agreed on not killing the golem and someone goes for it, its not under the leagues rule, so it should be deal by those clans themselves. Trust me, its very likely that the clan going after golem will lose. Smile

Strokke · Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 6:27 pm Post subject:

It would be fun to go against an all CD blacksmith team but I'm pretty sure they would lose against any of the better clans Smile

(don't forget that golems become harder to kill at higher levels especially without cells)
_________________

dark_rz · Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 6:28 pm Post subject:

you don't wanna face a ghetto golem team.

Microbe · League Advocate Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 134 Pictures: 0

Dragonsword · Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:24 pm Post subject:

i agree j2k

Rax · Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:21 pm Post subject: