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Strokke League Essential

Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 712 Pictures: 0
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:53 am Post subject: Nice Grudge Matches |
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Well now that we are Season One Champs I figure that there are a couple clans that would like to have a shot at us (and most people want to see these).
They are of course Amaterasu and omg. Nice would be willing to schedule a couple grudge matches with these clans after new years out of the kindness of our heart and the fact that we don't think we are going to lose.
(I don't want to hear anymore whining about Amaterasu. You had a chance to take 5 of their starting lineup and go against 4 of our lineup + 1 we didn't want to use. You chose to forfeit instead, it's not our fault.)
It is very clear at this point that since your clan would rather forfeit than play any lineup other than 6 specific people you have some gimmick in store for us. We would love to see what you have spent so long working on. I hope it was worth all this trouble!
So as far as scheduling
For omg - we could actually get this done before new year's probably. Find a time that works for you, we'll see if we can get enough people on. Let's rinse/repeat until we get something that works.
For amaterasu - we need to wait until the inter-canada high ping gets worked out obviously. I'm guessing that combined with the fact that you need 6 exact people will mean it could be a few weeks before we play. _________________
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Lvcifer League Supporter
Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 78 Pictures: 0
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:05 am Post subject: Re: Nice Grudge Matches |
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| Well now that we are Season One Champs I figure that there are a couple clans that would like to have a shot at us (and most people want to see these). |
wow, you guys declaring it so fast..
so im guessing that you have an inside info that the admins are going to validate amat's forfeit.. regardless that it was a lag problems and both of clan's demand are unmet...
and for this, amaterasu going to take the fall ? _________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HttF5HVYtlQ |
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Apple League Lover

Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 422 Pictures: 0 Location: New york
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:37 am Post subject: |
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Lvcifer =( If you weren't planning to take the fall then why did you forfeit. This isn't something you can just say "you win" and come back with "Oh, I wasn't thinking when I said that."
There's also screenshots that strokke provided.
>_<~~! _________________
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Caeis
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:52 am Post subject: |
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| I'm not claiming anything and I'm pretty much keeping my mouth shut. |
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Lvcifer League Supporter
Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 78 Pictures: 0
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:01 am Post subject: |
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Lvcifer =( If you weren't planning to take the fall then why did you forfeit. This isn't something you can just say "you win" and come back with "Oh, I wasn't thinking when I said that."
There's also screenshots that strokke provided.
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apple you have to understand that i wasnt there neither i was informed when giezel about to forfeit (i was talking with perf in amat's channel)
why giezel forfeit? because he was cornered and at that time nice was presenting their argument better than amat..
you guys have to understand that this isnt both clans fault. merely a lag problem.. and since nice presented a good argument that its amaterasu that has to choose between fulfilling nice's demand or forfeit.
the tricky thing is that the argument goes vice versa...
but amaterasu was not able to present the argument and comes down to giezel being pressured and cornered.. thus stating amat's forfeiting the match..
amat just want have a fair match as nice wants it too.. and at that time it was impossible.. and why dont you guys want a rescheduele where its not really amat's fault.. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HttF5HVYtlQ |
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Strokke League Essential

Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 712 Pictures: 0
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:16 am Post subject: |
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The argument does not go vice versa because Jowy declared that all the people with the ping problem were not allowed to compete in the match. We gave up trying to figure out a way for you to use them to play us and at that time both teams were forced to field a team without their laggers. We were in the process of grabbing a 6th when your team voluntarily forfeited.
You can be angry about Jowy's decision, you can be angry about Giezel's decision, and you can be angry that we were not willing to put the final off for 3 weeks.
But the admin's decision was made, your team forfeited, and we became Season One champs. You guys knew exactly what was going to happen if you didn't play us tonight, because I specifically gave your clan many warnings that we were running out of patience and were going to go to the rulebook and your clan STILL refused to play us.
When we were confronted with the problem our clan chose to forget about our own clan members and do everything in our power to get the match going with all the players you wanted. No other clan would have done that, especially in the championship game, so stop being angry at us because your clan made a stupid decision.
Yes it was a stupid decision. A forfeit or 5v5...with 5 of your 6 starters and 4 of our 6? You guys chose the automatic loss and I wish you would stop blaming us for it. _________________
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Apple League Lover

Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 422 Pictures: 0 Location: New york
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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So legolas let's get some match going heh ?  _________________
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Lvcifer League Supporter
Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 78 Pictures: 0
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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strokke, where did you get the indication that im angry about this?
im was happy yesterday as I am happy today after i finished my 2 final exams!
im not angry about who ever made the decision.. nor if you decline to do rematch in 3 weeks.. but i can see some unfair decision was made in this situation.. thats why i stand up and argue about this..
because the problem lies in the lags.. which affected both clan's members..
and because just the way the argument presented at that time, nice make the whole argument as it seems that its amaterasu fault..(good lawyer vs. bad lawyer Boston Legal anyone?)
anyway.. about jowy declared who have the ping problem? why do you label us as the lagger? when both clan has the lags problem... you guys also have some lagger, you do realize that right strokke?
we were trying our best too, to make the match happening that day.. as we feel we will have disadvantage if we are doing 5v5 with you guys as you guys feel disadvatanged to do 6v5 against us! so both clan has their own demand. we just want to have a fair match really...
clearly there are some other option to avoid that lag problems:
1. do 5v5 that day and nice agree to do another 6v6 another week
2. both clan just wait out for another week.. to see how the lag comes down... if until 1 or 2 weeks the problem isnt solved.. than do another option
strokke what are you talking about with using your best 4 out of 6?
lets count, you, perf, xio, hora, nem ? so im seeing that you also putting your best 5 out of 6 ??
who is blaming you strokke?
i merely points out that there is some unfair judgement made for this issue..
1. when it is clearly that both clan has 6 or more members online at that time..
2. both clan have lag problems to each other
so, why do we come down to attacking amaterasu to choose either forfeit or meet your demand..
im just plainly arguing that its not both clan's fault.. its the lag issue....
why do we have to take the fall for it?
i keep arguing because i cant sleep over this unfair situation.. and probably it will improve my english O.o _________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HttF5HVYtlQ
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Xionix League Essential
Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 560 Pictures: 0
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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| sue softnyx!! |
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Lvcifer League Supporter
Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 78 Pictures: 0
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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| sue softnyx!! |
exactly! its their fault!! why cant they let us create a dedicated server.. ill donate $1xx for maintaining the server! _________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HttF5HVYtlQ |
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123g League Advocate

Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 189 Pictures: 0 Location: Start --> Run --> CMD --> Format C: /q
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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Let Jowy/Kenn/Dark/ whoever the admins makes a final decision on whether the game is a forfeit win for Nice or should clans reschedule for a final match.
I'd like a post from the admin team discussing the issue before I decide who should be the season champ.
----2.1.1. An Administrator of the Rakion league. Is in charge of all official duties including, but not limited to, enforcing rules, settling conflicts, and making arbitrary decisions for the betterment of the overall league.
Everyone should just keep their mouth shut while admins decide what to do. That means you two, Strokke & Lvcifer. _________________
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Lvcifer League Supporter
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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dang! thanks for posting that G!
that signature of yours remind me of something..
anyway, cant wait for season 2~ _________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HttF5HVYtlQ |
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extremegiga League Advocate
Joined: 25 Sep 2006 Posts: 192 Pictures: 0
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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Gj G =) calm urselves and stop arguing... coz ur still retarded that way.. like G's Siggy. _________________ Jomun lvl 15 warrior |
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GPAznEternity League God

Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 1145 Pictures: 0
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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I must say, i spend 1/4 of my play time reading these forums because of all the drama, which is at once so pointless and easy to settle, yet so captivating. _________________
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Furious League Supporter
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 72 Pictures: 0
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:03 am Post subject: |
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I gotta agree, not about the 25% part, that's just way too much, but it the drama is morbidly fascinating. The depth of self-delusion some people are capable of is absolutely amazing. I'd also like to say that the last comment is in no way at all pertaining to the issue in question but aimed more towards people such as GripMasta and LuckyKill, who've "never lost a 1v1" _________________
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