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| #1 I had a reasonable ping with tronn, and if you ask people from our server you would hear that tronn does not have any sort of reputation for lagging. |
You don't need a reputation for lagging.
He could've just been lagging during that match.
You must've noticed tronn spike as it was throughout the whole game (at least from when I joined) till you guys left... A huge 170ms spike difference must've been noticed by you or any of your clan mates.
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#3 On a daily basis I fight people with 30-100 pings, maybe a few laggy west coast players at 130 but these people frustrate me. I had 140-190 with the euros. I literally could not hit someone who was standing still afk and I probably had the best ping with the euros compared to my other members. I'm not sure what your average ping is when playing in Europe but this experience was absolutely miserable and I don't see why anthyny allowed europeans after seeing what has happened season after season with the lag issue. Pravus is a great team, better than xBHx, you guys would have won if we didn't lag, but the lag made it extremely unenjoyable to play and like I said in the match, how can this possibly be representative of a teams skill when we never play with such awful pings? We expect things that should hit, to hit, and in our server, they usually do, unless you're fighting Tasheda or Gohan. |
Same with us as you can see with all our clan wars on RakionHQ. All the people we play have less than 100ms... Maybe you think we play with laggers because of all the stupid egyptions/turks joining and playing in the Europe server when they don't belong there.
I tend to kick people who have over 140ms...
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Ask TheSucker, I don't want to say it here. ^^;; Cause that might cause unwanted drama.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:36 am Post subject: |
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Haha, the beauty of this league was to see what issues would arise.
So I allowed the Europeans to play to see what would transpire.
And also to make it where we had eight teams cause some of the other clans I spoke too immediately revoked their claim to joining the league as soon as they saw the line up. Lol.
I was following previous league rulebooks in considering the EU clans, but from previous matches, its obvious we have a disgression I would say.
Also on your different matter Jowy, I spent a few days speaking with players of all prospective clans that would consider joining. Not just the regulars we play with who make up the 10 players you mentioned. And most of them agreed and were completely for the NSE.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:38 am Post subject: |
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| Jowy2000 wrote: |
| #1 I had a reasonable ping with tronn, and if you ask people from our server you would hear that tronn does not have any sort of reputation for lagging. |
You don't need a reputation for lagging.
He could've just been lagging during that match.
You must've noticed tronn spike as it was throughout the whole game (at least from when I joined) till you guys left... A huge 170ms spike difference must've been noticed by you or any of your clan mates.
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#3 On a daily basis I fight people with 30-100 pings, maybe a few laggy west coast players at 130 but these people frustrate me. I had 140-190 with the euros. I literally could not hit someone who was standing still afk and I probably had the best ping with the euros compared to my other members. I'm not sure what your average ping is when playing in Europe but this experience was absolutely miserable and I don't see why anthyny allowed europeans after seeing what has happened season after season with the lag issue. Pravus is a great team, better than xBHx, you guys would have won if we didn't lag, but the lag made it extremely unenjoyable to play and like I said in the match, how can this possibly be representative of a teams skill when we never play with such awful pings? We expect things that should hit, to hit, and in our server, they usually do, unless you're fighting Tasheda or Gohan. |
Same with us as you can see with all our clan wars on RakionHQ. All the people we play have less than 100ms... Maybe you think we play with laggers because of all the stupid egyptions/turks joining and playing in the Europe server when they don't belong there.
I tend to kick people who have over 140ms... |
You tend to kick people will over 140ms, eh?
Btw, when I was standing still, _Foam_ hit me just fine. 
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I guess I stand corrected then Anthyny, I guess a lot more people are willing to spend more on a NSE and a SE set than I thought.
I personally LOVE spending all my money on Rakion, Maxy too.
Is it really that bad to not want to play in lag?
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You tend to kick people will over 140ms, eh?
Btw, when I was standing still, _Foam_ hit me just fine. |
Yeh I do. Only some are lucky enough to have people voting /2 for them.
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Is it really that bad to not want to play in lag? |
Not at all. It's the same for us too...
However, Pravus as a Clan wants to find challenges as there's pretty much no challenge in Europe... That's why we want to play against Clans from other servers which will be more challenging, especially with the lag. This even improves our skills/teamwork as we're learning to adapt to more hard situations such as lag when playing clan wars and I think that is what a Clan must do when it comes to accomplishing being one of the best Clans...
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I guess I stand corrected then Anthyny, I guess a lot more people are willing to spend more on a NSE and a SE set than I thought.
I personally LOVE spending all my money on Rakion, Maxy too.
Is it really that bad to not want to play in lag? |
Yes, it's bad sportsmanship. ^^
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YAY! That was a friendly game,not problems ocurred and we all had lot of fun!
In round 4 we decided to kick our best player to make a more fair game,and we took a noob instead,a pity it was still unfair 
There were some nice juggles and our archers did definetly a great job ! Evo and me won a 2v3 situtation oh and I even stun-gripped their archer! hehe yeh I really liked to play that clan war.
xBHx did a great job also!  Maybe I couldn't see all their potential because they weren't able to use their favorite gear :
Maybe a bit of bugs because we are from different servers but I really felt welcome there and well(not complains about ms or such things),luckily they didn't bug any of my hits as 2 said:
Maybe I bugged some of them (not sure),if so I'm sorry for that
Oh in round 10 some of them had to go,so we couldn't finish the match  but still I had fun untill the last moment!
Sinceresly, I hope we will play more soon!
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Your sarcasm is truly hurting my feelings.
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I don't think there was any "unsportsmanlike" conduct during the 7 win match other than the warrior on the European team taunting dead body's.
Like it's been said, the league is a USA/Canada league..and with that being said, we should not have to switch out players to accommodate the latency with Europe. It is the other way around. My connection problem with Europe is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned.
But yeah Jowy, Toxi would have been a better choice.
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| Your sarcasm is truly hurting my feelings. |
Foam and sarcasm? Ha! That's the first I heard that!
He is Spanish Maxy!
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| Excuse me but i was just frustrated because none of my ices registered on any of you guys.... and i got ghost damage ..... i think anthyny should have matched the lagger eu's agianst each other rather than separating them |
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I seriously doubt every single ice/ basic missed. Mayb grips without a stun but not others. Ive played with thesucker plenty times and he seems to hit alot of his ices even with others lag.
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Maybe I bugged some of them (not sure),if so I'm sorry for that |
Well, TBH, there was one round where on 3 different occasions I was basicing you and then got spec'd out of nowhere -_- It kinda sucked balls.
As for the issue with Tronn goes, I didn't see him over 110 to me the entire game.
Hmm...the sarcasm from foam was a bit much, but I understand it.
I agree with what Jowy said, Pravus def. is better. I have scrimmed against pravus a few times over the years, and never once have I denied that they were a better clan, I have however been extremely frustrated by the random hits.
I'm not trying to take anything away from Pravus, just this was my first scrim in quite a while and it was irritating playing with the lag.
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