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Piper
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:53 am Post subject: |
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I don't know but they left complaining about lag which is the thing I don't like.
And that's an unfair thing to say if there's latency it's always our fault/// look at all their MS between the other players, only tronn is high which I think surely should of given EU the right to ask them to change one, I know this is a USA league but by treating us as such underdogs, you're doing yourself no favours. _________________
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david
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:56 am Post subject: |
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Evolutions
Joined: 16 Sep 2007 Posts: 245 Pictures: 0
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:04 am Post subject: |
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Piper, again you guys are the ones in fault when it comes to anything regarding latency. tronn could've spiked to 10 million and you guys would've needed to be able to connect with him if they chose to.
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That's ridiculous...
So because we are from Europe, it is our fault that tronn was lagging? Spiking from 230ms to 400ms... If it was any other clan from USA then the ping would've been say 70ms spiking to 240ms and there wouldn't be a problem with that?
Anyway...
I had around 119ms with Maxy and Jowy.
Around 145ms with Shelby.
Around 206ms with FoSho.
So there weren't much of a problem with lag apart from tronn actually lagging... _________________
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:06 am Post subject: |
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lol whos treating yall like underdogs?
119 is lag to me
anything orange really, damn canadians _________________
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:06 am Post subject: |
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You were in that game? I mean, I see most of you as 140 - 160 and Piper does spike up to 250? I never saw 119 though. _________________ omg i love my sig!!
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Piper
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:08 am Post subject: |
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Piper, again you guys are the ones in fault when it comes to anything regarding latency. tronn could've spiked to 10 million and you guys would've needed to be able to connect with him if they chose to.
On a side note, this is why I had one of our players move to Hawaii, so if we don't feel like scrimming some Euros, we'll have him log on so they can't connect and have to forfiet. Rawr. >=D |
Hmm there? Besides the second sentence may be a joke however it doesn't discourage the fact that there is a possibility this coule become a reality, and regarding the first sentence, it is our problem?
If we're not being treated unequally, care to explain how it really is? _________________
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:11 am Post subject: |
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Anthyny I really think you should put the EU clans in the same bracket next time. So instead of having all 6 US teams deal with it, there'll be 2.
Oh btw Piper, I don't know why you find it ridiculous to have asked to switch you out. We stated before the game started, that we would give you all a chance to see how bad the lag would be in game. And if we really can't cope with someone, then we get to switch 1 person out. If you didn't want to agree with it, then you should've voiced your opinion before the game started instead of complain about it afterwards. zzz. _________________ omg i love my sig!!
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david
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:15 am Post subject: |
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| put EU clan in the same bracket? Why ? I dont want start with the end ^^ |
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Evolutions
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| You were in that game? I mean, I see most of you as 140 - 160 and Piper does spike up to 250? I never saw 119 though. |
I was playing on Exo. And yeh it was 119ms mostly with you and Jowy... Sometimes going up to 14Xms.
It's ashame I wasn't taking any screenshots, only took one after you guys left complaining about the lag...
Edit: @Maxy: Maybe it would've been better if tronn was replaced too since he was lagging so badly even to you... But then again, people are going to say we have no right to say that because we're from Europe... _________________

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Piper
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:18 am Post subject: |
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Anthyny I really think you should put the EU clans in the same bracket next time. So instead of having all 6 US teams deal with it, there'll be 2.
Oh btw Piper, I don't know why you find it ridiculous to have asked to switch you out. We stated before the game started, that we would give you all a chance to see how bad the lag would be in game. And if we really can't cope with someone, then we get to switch 1 person out. If you didn't want to agree with it, then you should've voiced your opinion before the game started instead of complain about it afterwards. zzz. |
Im not complaining about being asked to leave, I left glady because I knew I was spiking, and I did state at the beggining before we began I was spiking, I was saying it was ridiculous that you guys left during the match complaining about lag issues, and leaving on a sore note. However it is your decision so whatever, just doesn't seem great sportsmanship to leave on such grounds, especially from people such as yourself and jowy who are usually fair people. _________________
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:21 am Post subject: |
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#1 I had a reasonable ping with tronn, and if you ask people from our server you would hear that tronn does not have any sort of reputation for lagging.
#2 I'm not managing this season, anthyny is, if I were euros wouldn't be allowed in. It would also not be NSE since there are only a grand total of 10 players in the US server who are bothered by this... But different issue
#3 On a daily basis I fight people with 30-100 pings, maybe a few laggy west coast players at 130 but these people frustrate me. I had 140-190 with the euros. I literally could not hit someone who was standing still afk and I probably had the best ping with the euros compared to my other members. I'm not sure what your average ping is when playing in Europe but this experience was absolutely miserable and I don't see why anthyny allowed europeans after seeing what has happened season after season with the lag issue. Pravus is a great team, better than xBHx, you guys would have won if we didn't lag, but the lag made it extremely unenjoyable to play and like I said in the match, how can this possibly be representative of a teams skill when we never play with such awful pings? We expect things that should hit, to hit, and in our server, they usually do, unless you're fighting Tasheda or Gohan.
No, it's not YOUR fault for lagging, it's simply the fault of the distance. I'm perfectly aware of how lag works and I'm also perfectly aware that I never, at any point in time, considered it reasonable to play a european team in a US league and expect the game to be fun or even representative of a teams skill.
My only good argument is that Europeans are used to lag moreso than US players who generally play with less lag, but tbh I don't even know if this is true. But I can for sure say that playing against Europeans makes me want to rip my hair out in frustration because as a mage, I will NEVER land a single basic attack, you will NEVER get blown away by my wind, or hit by my ice, or even front gripped by me. Every significant attack from a mage requires a lower ping to be successful. Do you think my 12 inch ruler as a weapon can overcome a blacksmith with 190 ping? Add an extra 100 milliseconds to icing/winding, it'll never work. And it didn't. And I don't see why I should have to play in such frustrating conditions.
The europeans had their own league right?
And sorry Tronn, it should have been toxicity instead of you :/ He's an east coast player.
Sorry Pravus, you guys are a great team and I like all of you as players I'm not trying to rationalize this as 'omg you only won because you lag' because thats not it, you would have wiped the floor with us either way, but I don't want to play in lag, and I don't think that's an unreasonable request. _________________ Aude Sapere
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Lol. Sorry, I only paid attention to Foam, TheSucker, Piper, Yumi and Hoshizora.
D: I stayed all 13 rounds. PFFTS. Yeah while someone was being an arrogant jerk, I don't think that's very good sportsmanship either. _________________ omg i love my sig!!
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Kazuya

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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:26 am Post subject: |
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So much drama over spikes, certainly by looking how I have been playing USA rooms for the past few years and only a handful of people really complained about my latency. Some other people even mentioned that mine was better over the average US. _________________ RakionHQ Root Admin - http://rakionhq.com/forum - kazuya@rakionhq.com

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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:29 am Post subject: |
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You should know that 1 person in a huge SU/SH/whatever joo play with latency issues is FAR different that facing a whole team with it. _________________ omg i love my sig!!
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Piper
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Lol. Sorry, I only paid attention to Foam, TheSucker, Piper, Yumi and Hoshizora.
D: I stayed all 13 rounds. PFFTS. Yeah while someone was being an arrogant jerk, I don't think that's very good sportsmanship either. |
Care to clarify who that someone is? _________________
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