NSE Rule

Anthyny · Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:05 pm Post subject:

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Shelbster · League God Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 843 Pictures: 0

Guys, just because you don't have the item doesn't mean you can't play with an item of less enchant. ANYONE who has a +15 item has spent some cash. Go browse some trading forums, and find a cheap reg. piece for 5$. Yes, enchants matter, but IMO, having a NSE league would be so much more fun.

At the very least, I'd say NSE weapons. However, I would like to push for the entire set.

To put it in perspective for you guys, I just spent money buying E-cores this last event to get my SS shoulders and NS bracers to +15, as well as buying a +15 NS sword. After buying that, I sold my +15 Beryl sword. Now, I am left with nothing to back that sword up with as well as no other good gear for the shoulders/bracers. Yes, I am trying to buy something off of different trade sites to cover there, but that doesn't mean that ismply because of that rule i"m unwilling to participate in the league. As Evo said, SE items if anything take away from the teamwork aspect of the league.
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XxVaLoRxX · Joined: 27 Oct 2008 Posts: 206 Pictures: 0

surely ele weaps would be considered NSE? >_> just clarifying cuz most scrims dont involve chaos..

Anthyny · Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:00 pm Post subject:

Well Ultimately, Im going to go speak to the clans/leaders I spoke to in game.

If they all still agree with the NSE like they did before, then the rule WILL be implemented. Fail league or not. Whether the few people who wish to have it want to or not as well.

Also, to valor's no chaos statement. Most of the scrims I did, Chaos was always allowed, is this statment saying that today's players would like chaos disabled from the league?
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XxVaLoRxX · Joined: 27 Oct 2008 Posts: 206 Pictures: 0

yes no chaos. Deity is fine with NSE as well.

[Emo]Misa · Joined: 02 Nov 2009 Posts: 27 Pictures: 0

If its gonna be NSE, Then I would suggest to make a gear rule. like bone no enchants for everyone o_o; or acute.. lol.

Anthyny · Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:57 pm Post subject:

If that would to be the case Misa, then it would be NO gear whatsoever.
Which I'm sure no one wishes to abide by.
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Master Shake · Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:04 pm Post subject:

Toxicity · Joined: 07 Dec 2007 Posts: 33 Pictures: 0

NSE would definitely make things quicker, but special effects add difficulty to the game in my personal opinion. With a piece of fear I can't get stunned continuously by two people or three people and I realize juggles are part of the game but its easier for some classes to juggle than it is for others. Juggles still apply even with SE its just harder for everyone, it is a different game and you can choose to play it that way or you can be hypocritical because you don't get enough stats from SE gear (I.E the 0 stats on an elemental body) and say I'm not enchanting SE gear and I don't think anyone else should be allowed to use SE gear because I don't want it, that's not exactly fair. I've also been owned by a clan that used NSE gear (it was a European clan) back when I was in OS and we were wearing SE gear. Skill still does matter in both cases. Fear is a double edged sword when used properly. All this to say I firmly believe it should be up to clan to decide, and I'm not saying this because I don't have an NSE set, I do and my stats are completely capped with it. Disabling potions and cells btw has nothing to do with what we're talking about, you kind of got offtrack there. A potion that restores 40% armor for me does a lot more for me than it does for you and cells just stop PvP from happening.

Anthyny · Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:05 am Post subject:

It completely has to do with what we were talking about, which was the point of "If its in the game, it should be allowed" which seems to be the standpoint of a few people who think SE gear should be allowed.
Pots do not deny PvP teamplay like SE gear does. It merely prolongs or or quickens it. Cells however, we can both agree on that. Now those players that seem to fear everytime they are touched. I would rather have that then a pot cause not having to restore your life in the first place is better then getting to no?
(No I'm not only referring to people here, I've been speaking with several players in game as well)

The point of no one enchanting SE gear cause of the no stats IE elementals I haven't heard yet from anyone so please elaborate on why that applies.

I played all my games today wearing my newly beloved master set and I realized how much more you need to depend on your team when you don't have that random chance of fear to occur to save you.
Which is what this league wishes to portray, having to depend/work with your team rather then the haphazard playing that occurs now where most players just go for the kill with their most damaging attack.

Now a little irrelevant I know, but last night I was being swordy special juggled and a mage ran right past me to ice a group a players I'm guessing hoping for a kill.
I politely asking him "WTF" (Lol.) and his response was, "Oh, I thought your damned body would fear for you"

That's disgraceful "IMHO" as you say. =P
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Homen · League God Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 924 Pictures: 0

lengend · Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:56 am Post subject:

The point is, these are armors and everyone had the chance to purchase them also. They give way better stats than other armors also. The only difference is they have SE. If you chose not to buy it, than that is you're own fault. Why should others not wear armor they purchased of there choice not be able to play in a league.

To me (IMO) looks like people who didn't purchase SE armors (mostly NS) are bitching about the effects. Like on my ninja i had NS items. I didn't care about the SE's, I cared about the stats it gave me. A few players shouldn't be singled out because they have SE armor and cannot purchase other armors just for a league. Discrimination towards SE!

I say allow it, you had the chance to have it, but you chose not too so duck off! lol
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Homen · League God Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 924 Pictures: 0