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SinisterSlay
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smiths always dominate, stats or not, its the only class that can do the almos tthe same damage THROUGH a persons block, as if they didn't block at all. They are still the same smiths that can 1 hit KO people, and run like mad fat men. At least in basic mode they would slow down. Your all against basic mode, but the only excuses listed so far are thing sthat exist in non basic mode matches. And the 300 dollar spenders, people don't want to fight them, if they are in the league, no one else will be, if they leave, others will want to be in league, if they stay and figh tin basic mode (thus no advantage) then others will fight in the league. As long as there are any cash advantages, no one will want to play, because otherwise its just an imaginary cash pissing contest, whoever can spend the most money on rakion will win.
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Panzerlord
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Please, make a smith then. Oh wait, you crash every X minutes. But use those 6 minutes, and make a smith. As a smith, can be killing people with 1 hits, kill the golem faster, or chase skinny archers with your move speed. Just don't whine when a warrior infini-spins you to death, or a mage infini-stun grips you/winds your chaos into a corner, or a ninja, or even archers doing their wait+crazy jump attack that hits everywhere. They aren't as stacked as you claim them to be. Sure a bunch of fatties swinging their hammers will hurt, but a team of warriors hurt too. Any team made up of 1 class will seem hard to beat.
The cash thing is inevitable. Most free-to-play game has some sort of cash shop. Even Pokemon Indigo has a PU-like system.
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SinisterSlay
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:06 am Post subject: |
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Please, make a smith then. Oh wait, you crash every X minutes. But use those 6 minutes, and make a smith. As a smith, can be killing people with 1 hits, kill the golem faster, or chase skinny archers with your move speed. Just don't whine when a warrior infini-spins you to death, or a mage infini-stun grips you/winds your chaos into a corner, or a ninja, or even archers doing their wait+crazy jump attack that hits everywhere. They aren't as stacked as you claim them to be. Sure a bunch of fatties swinging their hammers will hurt, but a team of warriors hurt too. Any team made up of 1 class will seem hard to beat.
The cash thing is inevitable. Most free-to-play game has some sort of cash shop. Even Pokemon Indigo has a PU-like system. |
I did have a long and well, biase dand stupid post typed out, when I remembered Robina posted something far better.
So I quote that instead
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....Right, wow. Firstly, the main flaw of the smith was having a really bad delay after swings, but with all the enchantments, 100/100 stats and new stuff, that ain't a problem anymore, smiths have huge block range, the ability to move and block, they have a HUGE swing so much so that with the right stats and skill, a well placed basic can be at just enough range so it either hits the opponent or they are too far to do anything to you before your delay ends. Damage from smith basic swings are godlike and hit for the highest damage for a basic combo, sure you can argue that ninjas do more damage with backgrips and also enjoy the new stats by stun locking with ease, but grip ninjas have paper like defense compared to smiths and a missed grip can you can kiss your ass goodbye , they are close to deadweight in cell-golem games, wherelse a basic smith can cause huge damage with swings and not suffer as much risk.
On to armour, with armour/energy pots, even if you played really well and got say, 3-5 combos in, the smith can pot back to full health and screw you over. Their special 'radius' rings are unreliable, yeah, but the hammer itself hits if it's in range (quite a respectable range in fact) and the delay for the smith special is amongst the shortest, and btw, if you haven't realized, 3x basic swings happen more often than any other 'extra hit' move and causes massive damage.
In stats, smiths have the highest armour, energy, (not the highest basic, but the strongest), strongest ranged attack (axe), highest cd, second highest cp, highest grip, and while not lightning fast, respectable speed (beats archers and mages).
The only place where smiths got shafted is their chaos. It sucks balls.
So yeah - -. Not to mention all that hate that smiths bring with so many being range/cd and having a reputation for being a class that pricks and 12-years old with loads of money often choose. So yeah, you can argue, but the reason that most people view smiths as overpowered is simple because they are. |
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hyphyboii
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be amazingly tough to find 6 clan battling Ninjas, im pretty sure most clan battlers now realize that Ninjas are worthless in clan battles, and only smiths, mages and swordies are really used, with maybe an archer, but primarily smiths.
This goes for both basic and non basic mode. Its just the way Rakion is. |
Maybe an archer? lol  Archer is 1 of the most important player in a scrim. In basically every clan match I've been in, there was always/usually 2 archers maybe 1. Even 3 swordies would be better than 3 smiths. Mages were also rarely used. What kind of clan battles have you been in O.o. |
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Shelbster
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when I scrim, most important classes = 2-3 warriors, 1-2 archers, 1 ninja, maybe 1 blacksmith or mage.
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Dr.PP
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rofl bs are liek the most over powered char .
mages are the least. wind? glitches, jump attack? doesnt even hit unless the other guy jumps at you. all of our attacks have the worst delay. bs/s have it easy a smart one can special his way to a victory.
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| rofl bs are liek the most over powered char . |
QFT.
=P But, then again that is why I don't like to play BS. My favorites are archer, ninja, and mage.
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| Angel wrote: |
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| rofl bs are liek the most over powered char . |
QFT.
=P But, then again that is why I don't like to play BS. My favorites are archer, ninja, and mage. |
i love mages and archers
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SinisterSlay
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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Please, make a smith then. Oh wait, you crash every X minutes. But use those 6 minutes, and make a smith. As a smith, can be killing people with 1 hits, kill the golem faster, or chase skinny archers with your move speed. Just don't whine when a warrior infini-spins you to death, or a mage infini-stun grips you/winds your chaos into a corner, or a ninja, or even archers doing their wait+crazy jump attack that hits everywhere. They aren't as stacked as you claim them to be. Sure a bunch of fatties swinging their hammers will hurt, but a team of warriors hurt too. Any team made up of 1 class will seem hard to beat.
The cash thing is inevitable. Most free-to-play game has some sort of cash shop. Even Pokemon Indigo has a PU-like system. |
I went and made a smith, completely naked, Was tough cause of the crashing, but, without even knowing how to 2 hit jump attack, 95% of my games I got either player killer or X player, and I almost always got the gold golems. Archers occasionally shot me but, the damage was so insignificant that it didn't matter. one guy tried to infini spin me but I jumped up and spammed him with a 2 hit jump attack, unfortunitly he was the master and wasnt pleased with his quick demise, and kicked me
So basically spamming basic, specials and jump attacks, i got to level 10 on a smith in about 1 hours, 20 minutes (I stopped the clock for 2 days, vacation, and I stopped it during reload times after a crash), with PU. And i still can't fight even a noob 1 on 1, but, smiths don't need to do that, they are so over powered that it doesn't matter. I just walked through most the damage. I of course made him a range smith, just so I could kill those golems just that much faster  .
I did come across one mage tho that kept winding me away from the golem, and I sucked at Axes so it cost me the master golem once or twice.
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