The League's Direction

Falcon · Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:54 pm Post subject: The League's Direction

Okay guys, I'd like to bring the ongoing private debate out to the community's eyes. It's you guys who's going to participate. It's you guys that determines the League's success.

Discussions on Season 5 started in mid-Feb and all that planning led to one big failure. That's why we really want your suggestions. If all you're going to do is remain silent when we discuss these issues publicly, it tells us that you don't really give a shit, something we don't mind. But don't bitch about the failure or death of the season when you didn't contribute at all.

What is the League's new direction? Although I am not very much in favor, the best option (for now) is carnival games. This includes 1v1 duels, tag-team matches, races, just fun lil games like that.

Why is it the best option? We can set it up right away. It's fun. It doesn't take long to organize. It doesn't have a lot of rules that require one big paragraph to read; nothing that should scare incompetent clan managers.

Personally, I'm focusing more on clan wars because that's the core of the League. The raw competitive nature of it just gets everyone's heart going. It's what got everyone to register here in the first place. And of course, carnival games doesn't require a lot of mental prowess to plan. I'm currently analyzing what made Season 1-4 fail (factors include scheduling hassles, lost faith in the administration, overall structure, etc.) and season 5 (similar reasons in some regards.

What do you guys think? I'm confident carnival games will bring life back into the League, but I want to go back to our roots - clan wars.

Clan wars will be the biggest stumbling block and if it's something you guys want, it'll take a lot longer to establish. I'm thinking carnival games for now and perhaps ongoing, while we work out clan wars in the background.

To summarize, if you want fun now, carnival games which we are 90% going to do. If you want clan wars, then talk to us and work with us. Something else? Again, tell us.

We want to hear from YOU.
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Shelbster · League God Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 843 Pictures: 0

Why not do some carnival games now, with very minimal prizes, and use that as a way to bide time between seasons, so essentially pushing this season even further back?
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Falcon · Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:08 pm Post subject:

lengend · Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:09 pm Post subject:

i like turtles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y
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Falcon · Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:10 pm Post subject:

ImBigBoned · Joined: 16 May 2008 Posts: 38 Pictures: 0

I think the fact that the game is declining caused season 5 to fail more than there being any problems with it.

lengend · Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject:

ppl get scared and never return

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcyh3S08d9Y
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Panzerlord · Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:48 pm Post subject:

There are still many players and clans in Rakion. Sadly, many of them do not make it into the 31-99 games. Those that do get past will either quit because of the disadvantage, or spend more money. Most people quit.

The league should have seperate divisions for different clans. Instead of having all the clans together, lets have a group of higher levels, and a group of lower levels. That way, more people will be willing to participate without fear of a team of level 99s stuffed with stats and enchants.
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lengend · Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:07 pm Post subject:

i can be a dick and make a lvl 21 character and restat to him and put like +12 enchants for those divisions...
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Shelbster · League God Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 843 Pictures: 0

The league could also take a step to create an 11-30 bracket. Say if a group of people from the current leagues were to make a character and get it to lvl 25ish, and only restat about say, 50-60 PU pts into it, something not too drastic, or even not restat at all. Open up a league there, get the people in that range open to playing in clan scrims and on our forums interacting with us, and maybe we can jumpstart the game a little bit.

However, this may be met with soem problems as there are some overly aggressive clans in the 11-30 range. There would need to be strict moderation of the forums IMO if this were to happen, as potentially one flame thread (as we have seen happen in the past) could essentially bring about the end of everything.
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Panzerlord · Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:00 pm Post subject:

Falcon · Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:11 pm Post subject:

Aurgh. I wrote a long post and it... disappeared. I'm not going to bother rewriting it so here's another thought to chew on.

You are right, ImBigBoned, because I see a correlation between a decline in the League and the game. But that's only our view, because cash users see the gaming leaping and bounding to heavenly heights. I commonly witness an overzealous Rakion player worship Softnyx for all the cash items and begging for more. They love that Softnyx currently focuses primarily on the cash users. I believe this ultimately led to the next and next and next generation of Rakion which means...

We don't have the luxury of having the veterans of Rakion since most of them retired. These people were the most experienced, the most opinionated, and the most dedicated to the community. The lack of these people leave a gaping hole that has not yet been filled.

I believe that if we are to make the League successful again, we really need to work together in building a system. I don't want to see only 2-3 people planning together to end up with failure (again). So how do we create a clan way system that will work?

I have always had two goals in mind when coming up with a system: balance and simplicity.

Balance is what we are mainly talking about so far. Most level 30+ pack a ton of points while those below usually don't. How do we create a League where both can mingle together in a peaceful environment? Simply splitting players depending on levels?

But as Legend said, he can be a dick and just restat to a low level noob. That's what makes it so hard to split gamers into groups dependent on levels. Shelbster, how can we check the number of PU points somebody has? The only way is through screenshots and as I stated in the past, SS tell us nothing.

I believe the future clan way system should rule out pots and elementals. Not everyone had the luxury of abusing the dice game to buy 6 slots of pot. It elongates the game and allows the stronger, not necessarily skilled to win. We can't ensure that everyone has 6 pots. But we can ensure that everyone has NO pots.

This can be applied to elementals, et cetera. But then when do we stop? No armor above mercenary since not everyone can afford +15 divine?

There's a lot to think about.

And then there's simplicity. We need to hold firm to the KISS rule (keep it simple, stupid). We must admit that we are stupid, that the Rakion community has a very low IQ. The less rules, the easier it is to participate.

I have a lot more to say, but that should spark enough debate for now.
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Palad][n · Joined: 11 Oct 2007 Posts: 70 Pictures: 0

and the debate starts NOW......................lol i think u covered a lot it falcon. Personally my intrest in rakion is failing. The community of rakion is nonexistent. There is hardly anymore good games. Like you said many of the vets have retired and probably because this game is getting old. I will not be spending anymore cash in this game...unless they completely upgrade and make this game fun again. However, in upgrading this game softnyx has always fallen short. Really, if you think about it how much has softnyx added to this game. 1? 2? maybe 3 armor sets? uh Bone, hound, and black hound are similar they only changed the colors a bit and made the stats a little different. Ice set has been color changed three times and restated, and acute was ok. Softnyx hasnt even implemented a trade system. Ok i might be asking for 2 much, but how long has rakion been around for, and i think i heard mobius has trade. Fact is the rakion community is dieing withering away to a small fraction who still play. Sure there are new players here and there, and then there are ppl who never charge and are having fun in 11-30, and without pu it takes a long time to break the 31-99. Anyways thats all i have to say, i pretty much quit, and will probably only play here and there for a little amusement, but it most likely wont be for awhile.
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Ryan · League God Joined: 25 Sep 2006 Posts: 801 Pictures: 0

basic mode.
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ImRichBioch · Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:46 pm Post subject: