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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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kekekeke this is funny, getting all hot and serious. if they knew what the value of a dollar is then why dont they just spend it on soemthing useful like a new computer or a better internet service or more RAMor a better video card. a mexican living 100 miles away from me is no excuse to lag. AND THEY STILL SPEND IT ON PU BECUASE ITS CHEAP!


You're an idiot.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I believe when they say that people know the value of a dollar it means more than computers. They know how to get the basic things they need to survive (no, you do not need alot of ram in a computer or a big hard drive or a fast internet connection to survive) and they know how to save up their money for the future. They make the most of every dollar. Something many people could use to learn is to be a little bit more frugal with their resources.

well there are 99 cent stores and the good will, also lets say they have 6 family members living in the same house and all contribute to paying rent, water, and electricity/gas thats like what 75 bucks a month?. if these people are going to use the computer and try to be in competition, then they need to spend alot more money on the "proper equipment".

no excuse being poor, why you think America raised minimum wage?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Stereotypes are around for a reason. There is SOME sort of truth behind it. To deny it is to try to prove that you're just some ignorant ass kissing swine.kissing ass? No but i'll pass. I'm a mexican,a latino. It's not a kissing ass when basically its more than a stereotype, and more of a racist comment and I have no right to get mad? Especially saying it over the internet. What happened to your "real life friends", because we don't need this kind of bullshyt here so why don't you take this bullshyt and say it to your "real life friends" then stick it up yur a** because it is not needed here. Stereotypes are around but are not needed and can be prevented.


All my real life friends know I have something against mexicans. It's not like I woke up one morning and decided 'Oh. I'm going to hate on mexicans.' I was always fine with them until I hit high school. I don't have a problem with hispanics in general. duck, my best friend is peruvian, not even an American citizen. Internet? Yeah, I was fine with virtual mexicans until a particular mexican couple decided to gang up on me just because I went into a certain ventrilo and asked 'Where's Heart?' as if there was something wrong with me looking for her.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

El_Minigame wrote:
Shelbster wrote:
I believe when they say that people know the value of a dollar it means more than computers. They know how to get the basic things they need to survive (no, you do not need alot of ram in a computer or a big hard drive or a fast internet connection to survive) and they know how to save up their money for the future. They make the most of every dollar. Something many people could use to learn is to be a little bit more frugal with their resources.

well there are 99 cent stores and the good will, also lets say they have 6 family members living in the same house and all contribute to paying rent, water, and electricity/gas thats like what 75 bucks a month?. if these people are going to use the computer and try to be in competition, then they need to spend alot more money on the "proper equipment".

no excuse being poor, why you think America raised minimum wage?


You're a real genius you know that? Minimum wage does not mean you're gonna be living the "good life." I worked for minimum wage this summer and while it was a lot to me ($7.15/hr), there's no way someone can really live with that money, not well anyway, especially when the federal minimum wage is a lot lower. I gave most of that to my parents. In addition to this, the dollar loses value every second now, which means our money is worth less. People can also get paid off the books (and less than minimum wage consequently), and there are places that still overcharge for rent. Rent where I live is extremely expensive. Minimum wage wouldn't cover that at all if it weren't for government subsidies. I know people whose fathers have left their family and left their mother to be the lone caretaker of the family.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And do you think they are paid minimum wage at all?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is impossible for a family of four to live off of minimum wage. They are most likely not getting enough to eat and have to receive help from the government. Do you wonder why so many people in the streets have to resort to doing illegal things to get by with supporting their lives? No, its not that its really fun to do, but its cause they won't survive without stealing/dealing drugs etc. They are given with the option of going to jail in an attempt to support their family or dying. I think we all know which option is the one they'll take.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poverty will always be there. As long as our economy has rich people, there will be the poor as well. If you took the resources of the entire world and allocated them equally, then everyone would have enough to survive. It is possible. But with people out there like Bill Gates and other million/billionaires, then that leaves less resources for other people, hence a problem with poverty.

Poverty is a very viscious cycle. I speak from experience here. My mother has no college education, and my father left when I was born and never paid child support. My mother lives with my cousins and they help support her. With her income, at 62 years old, she would never be able to support herself.

I consider myself lucky to be able to go to college.I was always told I was too poor to afford college, but I work my ass off and keep my grades up so I get scholarship, and the Government helps me out quite a bit too. Yes, when I'm done I'll have about 50 grand in loans to pay back, but I'll be able to escape this viscious cycle. Unfortunately, many people do not do so. They see the obstacles in front of them, and the mountain seems insurmountable. I'll admit, it still seems that way to me at times as well. But ya know what? I live without alot of things so that I can escape this cycle. Rakion is really the only money I spend for fun. I don't go see movies, I don't go out to eat, I eat wahtever food is the cheapest to buy. I don't own alot of chlothes (most of the shirts I have have a hole or two in them). You'd be surprised the things you can live with when you have not known any other way to live. And frankly, I would take this lifestyle any day over being rich. I may not have the resources to make myself feel financially comfortable all the time, but something about poverty really draws familys close together. There may be tension, but when someone needs help, they've got an entire family there to back them up.

So...hte point to that rant...rent and water and electric cost more than 75 bucks a month. My mother and my two cousins who live with her (all working and earning minimum wage) barely are able to keep their cars on the road to get to work and keep all the stuff paid. Thank God that the house was left to them by my grandmother when she died, and it's fully paid off, or they'd be up shit crick without a paddle.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

El_Minigame wrote:
kekekeke this is funny, getting all hot and serious. if they knew what the value of a dollar is then why dont they just spend it on soemthing useful like a new computer or a better internet service or more RAMor a better video card. a mexican living 100 miles away from me is no excuse to lag. AND THEY STILL SPEND IT ON PU BECUASE ITS CHEAP!
Your not even worth it.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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El_Minigame wrote:
kekekeke this is funny, getting all hot and serious. if they knew what the value of a dollar is then why dont they just spend it on soemthing useful like a new computer or a better internet service or more RAMor a better video card. a mexican living 100 miles away from me is no excuse to lag. AND THEY STILL SPEND IT ON PU BECUASE ITS CHEAP!
Your not even worth it.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shelbster that was a nice rant. Good read.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow lots of reading,, well i will say my personal opinion about racist/stupid comments


well u vio1ent i tho u were cool ,, but seen ur wannabe racist comment makes me want to puke on yo faceee.. cuz u are one ugly a$$ b1tch..

and u minigame u probably a 10 years old kid thats says the same shiit what his parent told, maybe i dont know im not wizard to know everything ! but u ac like it

and yes i got kinda offended by some Pricks comments !! is like i say

maaan all this Chinese people *i supposed to say asian but not i will say chinesee * !!well heree*


, man all these chinese people think their smart and shiit, most of chinese are geeks !! blahblah ... this freaking racist right there or not ?

all i have to say is ,, i dont have problem at all with any race or anything i think we all the samee u know ? we got good and bad people in any race, but yall white people are kinda more fucked up in da head...j/k !
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

El_Minigame wrote:
well there are 99 cent stores and the good will, also lets say they have 6 family members living in the same house and all contribute to paying rent, water, and electricity/gas thats like what 75 bucks a month?. if these people are going to use the computer and try to be in competition, then they need to spend alot more money on the "proper equipment".

Wow are you fu*king stupid? Have you ever even paid rent, water, and electricity/gas? From what I read, you're a loser that leeches off your parents. You can barely support yourself with minimum wage.
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no excuse being poor, why you think America raised minimum wage?

This has to be by far the most retarded thing I've ever read in my life.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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well there are 99 cent stores and the good will, also lets say they have 6 family members living in the same house and all contribute to paying rent, water, and electricity/gas thats like what 75 bucks a month?. if these people are going to use the computer and try to be in competition, then they need to spend alot more money on the "proper equipment".

no excuse being poor, why you think America raised minimum wage?


Wow minimum wage can bearly keep yourself living especially from how bad the economy is right now probably from ignorant people like yourself.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ROFLMAO! almost every person in here said that they live with there parents/ family members and or roommates (wife or husband). i believe that you graduated college shelbster? i know its going to happen when you complete college, you have to pay off all that school which is a pain in the ass. i have a friend that has the exact same life style but his parents as a personal business and my friend didnt go to college, he went to the navy.

so im guessing im a loser if my parents love me so much that they dont want me to leave the house. if girls think im a loser because of that then there just a worthless skank only used for sex.

and no shit on the minimum wage. as i said, you got to have like 6 or more people in order just to make some money. like taking the bus or carpool?

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, man all these chinese people think their smart and shiit, most of chinese are geeks !! blahblah ... this freaking racist right there or not ?
ever watch PBS? like half or less of Chinese race lives in poverty due to a crappy goverment, most of them have noodle cafes and farmers. they cant live in those appartments so they live off of expensive taxed land and they have to build there house out of scrap with no electricity.

and this goes to everywhere to every country, most democracy country gives you the opportunity in getting food stamps and charities.

as the topic says Dont Hate, then dont be hating on the person on what they believe in.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As much as it is don't hate the person on what they believe in, does not imply correcting the false statements made.

First of all, Shelby's right, as there are proper imbalances to life, if one is rich, another will be poor. The only way to do that, and some of you will probrably not like it is the reduction of non-supportive jobs in America. Such being athletes mostly, paying them more than what they don't really owe. What they do doesn't help us but only keeps us in the same economic disaster that we are currently suffering.

Secondly, if it weren't for the moronic banks giving mortgages and loans to people who don't have the money to pay it off, we couldn't possibly be in a subprime disaster like this, history is repeating itself and it's only a matter of time before it finally collapses again for the second time in less than 100 years.

Third, theres nothing wrong with living with your parents, but when your at the age of an adult, you really need to move out, by than you should be old enough to do what you have to do and stop sucking off your parents money. And it's not a fact that your parents want you to stay, it's that most parents who only have one kid are subjected to be emotional when their kid grows up all of a sudden and is leaving them.
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